The conversation revolves around the NATO summit and the concerns about escalating tensions with Russia.
The speakers discuss the lack of surprises in the summit and the continued insistence on defeating Russia.
They express worry about the rhetoric coming out of the summit and the refusal to engage in diplomacy.
The idea of making Ukraine part of NATO is also discussed.
The conversation touches on the possibility of starting World War Three and the mixed signals from different leaders.
The speakers mention a prank call involving David Cameron and express concern about the changing dynamics in recent weeks.
