The conversation discusses the role of propaganda and narrative control in the information war between the West and Russia.
It highlights how Westerners are better at propaganda and narrative control, while the Russians struggle to explain themselves.
The Russian government is not good at marketing or pushing out their message, relying instead on factual and conservative reports.
The conversation also explores how the West has become the most propagandized countries in the world, with institutions and media being corrupted over time.
The discussion touches on the situation in Ukraine and the impact of propaganda on people's perception of the conflict.